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Episode 37 GMO: Good or Evil?

In today’s episode I revisit the whole GMO debate.  I ask a lot of questions and hopefully I answer some.  I have to insist that anyone commenting here listen to the entire episode first.  I will not address comments from people who clearly did not listen to the episode. 

Tune it to hear:

*How GMOs are actually made.  The process itself is a little scary but for the most part benign (except for the results of course).

*How do they get the genetic material out?  How do they get the new genetic material in?

*The different types of GMO.  Transgenic is the least of your worries!

*Notice how many steps in making a GMO.  The more steps, the more room for error.

*Some of the potential problems with GMOs in my opinion.

*Why BT toxin accumulation is not a real concern in my eyes except for the fact that it points to poor testing methods, dishonesty in Agribiz, and the potential for effects on the human body in the future.

*How GMOs can really, severely, alter the world in a negative way. 

*The tactics of the GMO advocates.

*How GMO’s will be sold to the public in the future.  1.  Boutique GMOs – Do something novel, build a cult around it, market it to death (literally).  2.  Forced Crisis, Forced Solution – Cause a problem and let people beg you to help.  3.  Government mandate – Think the government can’t dictate what a majority of farmers plant?  Let them stop subsidies and see how the masses respond.

*Some things we can do to make our voices heard.  (I’m one week soda free!).

8 comments to Episode 37 GMO: Good or Evil?

  • GoneWithTheWind

    It isn’t a question of do we allow research on GMO or not. The question is do we stop it forcing it underground (to China or Russia) where their are no controls or allow it to continue? The Genie is out of the bottle and it isn’t going back.

  • In 10 years we’ll see DIY kits for home use.


  • Mike Guidry

    I was watching some scientist push non allergenic peanuts on Fox news today. I suppose the peanuts will cross pollinate with the normal peanuts and then they will sue the farmers of regular peanuts the same way Monsanto did. Before this is over we may not have heirloom varieties of many of our vegetables. I don’t know enough about genetic manipulation of plant species to make an analysis of the benifits of them. What I will say is that from a personal standpoint, I want my family to eat the same high quality fruits and vegetables that I had growing up. Therefore I will make every effort to grow heirloom varieties at my homestead. If Monsanto and the other GMO producers didn’t have anything to hide, then why are they fighting so hard to prevent the labeling of products as being GMO. The big problem started when the supreme court gave them the right to patent a living organism. People should have every right to know what they are eating. I watched the Future of food and Food Inc. on Netflicks. Those two documentaries are a wealth of information on this subject. Along with this great podcast episode that Jason produced anyone can make an intelligent decision regarding GMOs. I give them a thumbs down.

  • Thanks Mike.

    I agree. They say it would hurt sales if they labelled. My response – OK??! I never thought about it but you are very right about the SC decision. It might not eliminate the risk forever but it would certainly slow the tech down without the dollars backing it.


    • Jason

      Oh yeah it does!

      In the book The Windup Girl (GMO’s play a huge part in the plot), they do the complete opposite to cats, inserting chameleon genes so they become Chesire cats. They then outcompete regular cats until there are no more regular cats.


  • Jason Bruns

    I am convinced this reflects more of a societal problem than anything. Everyone wants to hear that they can just do something easy and take care of a problem. I am a pharmacist and I see people doing this all of the time. Someone will weigh 300 pounds, and instead of doing the “hard” thing i.e. – reduce their caloric intake using will power, they will come with a prescription. “We” have stopped solving problems by first looking at the cause of the problem (or if something really is a problem at all), then attempting to route that cause. Now it seems we just keep on using the band-aid approach. GMO’s are no different. I am not a “religious” man, but the bible states the best form of weed control if you want to control them at all. Let them grow, wait until the end of the season, or prior to the weeds setting seed, gather them up AND BURN EM’. That worked for centuries, until fossil fuels made it possible for an individual to “farm” thousands of acres.
    I actually convinced my Dad in 1995 to begin growing round-up ready beans, because I hated having to go out and pull weeds by hand. It was short sided and I had an agenda. It wasn’t until I had upper level biology and genetics courses that I understood just what I had actually done. I have been trying to get him to stop using round-up ready beans since about 2000, but he is hooked. Now with no kids to “make” pull weeds, he isn’t going to do it. We cannot talk about it without it turning into a full fledged fight.
    What I cannot believe is how we have seen what invasive species have done to ecosystems all over the Earth. Those were organisms that were already here, what the hell is going to happen when humans engineer something that is worse than anything we have ever seen.

    I did listen to the show Jason. Perhaps the science wasn’t bad when they reported males having uteruses. Maybe that was accurate and should be a guide to show us just how bad GMO can be. :D

    Great show.

  • Jason

    Thanks Jason

    I had the Roundup ready talk with my dad last night coincidentally. Now, he doesn’t farm and hasn’t for years but he had no idea. To tell you how bad it was he told me that when roundup came out it was considered biodegradable. He (and very few people) know about the court decision where they had to remove that. Doesn’t matter now, its ingrained.

    But your estimation about the fast and easy solution is so dead on. If things were fast and easy everyone would have everything they need at all times. As I tell my son, “life’s hard, suck it up!”


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